Ian Altman emphasizes the importance of identifying and addressing the top obstacles to sales performance, prioritizing opportunities for growth. He advocates for a tailored approach, focusing on specific problems and scenarios, building muscle memory, and developing targeted skills that can be applied broadly across the organization.
Ian, welcome to the same side selling podcast. I am
Ian Altman:your host. Ian Altman, why is it that organizations often
Ian Altman:struggle to change behavior of their salespeople? I have the
Ian Altman:great fortune of working with many top performing
Ian Altman:organizations on how to do just that, how to modify the behavior
Ian Altman:of their sales people, not because they're not good. In
Ian Altman:fact, I make it a point not to work with dysfunctional groups,
Ian Altman:but rather, how do we take people from doing a good job and
Ian Altman:getting great results? How do we help organizations go from,
Ian Altman:let's say $100 million to 600 million, from 5 million to 100
Ian Altman:million. How do we achieve that type of remarkable growth? And
Ian Altman:the trap that many organizations fall into is this, they try to
Ian Altman:do too much, too quickly. And what I mean by that is it's
Ian Altman:almost the trap of trying to boil the ocean. So what they
Ian Altman:think of is, okay, I need to change every behavior. Focus on
Ian Altman:every nuance, every single element. We need to change our
Ian Altman:entire process from beginning to end. And the reality is that the
Ian Altman:best performing organizations, what they tend to do is focus
Ian Altman:very narrowly on specific things that will move the needle the
Ian Altman:most. It's why, when I work with organizations, what we do is we
Ian Altman:say, okay, where are the three biggest areas where your team is
Ian Altman:getting stuck today? Let's focus on fixing those three areas. So
Ian Altman:it might be well, our biggest area is in opening up new
Ian Altman:opportunities. And it usually prompts me to say, so which
Ian Altman:specific types of opportunities will drive the most growth. And
Ian Altman:oftentimes I get this pause because they haven't thought of
Ian Altman:it that way. See, they look at all opportunities as being
Ian Altman:equal. And what instead, I encourage them to look at is, if
Ian Altman:you were successful with just a subset, which subset would move
Ian Altman:the needle the most? And then they say, Oh well, the types of
Ian Altman:accounts that would help us the most, that would generate the
Ian Altman:highest margin, best business for us, they happen to fall into
Ian Altman:this category. And I say, Okay, so now, how do we want to
Ian Altman:approach opening opportunities and earning the attention for
Ian Altman:those niche opportunities? It might be 5% of the total
Ian Altman:opportunities, but if those the ones that are most impactful,
Ian Altman:how can we address a different approach for those individual
Ian Altman:circumstances? And so what happens is, then I say to them,
Ian Altman:okay, so that's what you want to do overall, if you want to get
Ian Altman:top results for your team, take a look at these same side
Ian Altman:selling Academy. Just visit same sideselling.com to learn more.
Ian Altman:Here's the way we're going to engage your team. Let's ask each
Ian Altman:person to identify two opportunities they're going to
Ian Altman:pursue each week that fit into that category with this
Ian Altman:approach, and we're going to practice and role play those
Ian Altman:scenarios for those scenarios before we ever contact those
Ian Altman:clients. So now we know exactly how we want to approach it. It's
Ian Altman:hyper specific, and it's geared towards those opportunities that
Ian Altman:have the greatest potential for growth in our organization. See,
Ian Altman:when we take a generalist approach, we target, we end up
Ian Altman:casting this wide net, and we capture a lot of junk along the
Ian Altman:way. We don't really get a sense of what's going to move the
Ian Altman:needle. Instead, if you're hyper specific and you say, these are
Ian Altman:the types of accounts that I want to go after, let's say, in
Ian Altman:each territory, and now, within each territory, okay, let's talk
Ian Altman:to each rep about which two opportunities you're going to
Ian Altman:take this new approach with this week. And let's role play and
Ian Altman:practice those and then you're going to go, after just those
Ian Altman:two using this approach, what happens is we start to build and
Ian Altman:refine a better approach. Now, if you ask those reps, look, is
Ian Altman:this overwhelming? Their response is, well, it's not
Ian Altman:overwhelming. This is actually pretty simple. I only have to do
Ian Altman:this for a couple of opportunities. It's hyper
Ian Altman:specific. But what happens is they learn through that
Ian Altman:approach, how to apply this to other scenarios. So the next
Ian Altman:time we do this, maybe a month later. So we've done two
Ian Altman:opportunities each week for a month now, we say, okay, so what
Ian Altman:other opportunities might this apply to? Oh, well, you know
Ian Altman:what this client, we're up selling or cross selling
Ian Altman:additional services. I think this would approach, this
Ian Altman:approach would work well. And we say, Okay, how would you adapt
Ian Altman:that for this scenario? And now we're doing is we're building
Ian Altman:skills that are more broadly applicable across the
Ian Altman:organization. See, we start by being very specific. And then
Ian Altman:what happens is the team starts to realize, oh, I can use this
Ian Altman:same formula for this scenario and that scenario, I can use the
Ian Altman:same scenario for this vertical or that vertical. What often
Ian Altman:happens is we realize that the best way to reach out is by
Ian Altman:focusing on the problems that we solve for. Those people. So the
Ian Altman:more specific we get, the more likely we are to capture their
Ian Altman:attention. So you might say, Oh, we help organizations become
Ian Altman:more efficient, which is very generic. And anyone could say,
Ian Altman:or if you were reaching out to people who were in process
Ian Altman:manufacturing, you could say, when I deal with people in
Ian Altman:process manufacturing, who are trying to solve this specific
Ian Altman:problem. Here's what they often tell us, we can help them the
Ian Altman:most to address and now we're being very specific. So taking
Ian Altman:that approach, it means that now when those reps are going after
Ian Altman:a new market, a new opportunity, they now say, Oh, I have a
Ian Altman:formula for how to deal with this. I now know based on the
Ian Altman:experience of going after two accounts per week with this very
Ian Altman:specific approach, I'm seeing what works and what doesn't
Ian Altman:work. I'm seeing how I adapted my message, what worked and what
Ian Altman:didn't work. Now I can apply it elsewhere. If instead, if I
Ian Altman:said, Oh, I want you to apply this in every scenario, in every
Ian Altman:situation, what would happen is it would be overwhelming for the
Ian Altman:reps, and when we are overwhelmed, what do we do? We
Ian Altman:tend to fall back on the way we used to do things. It's like, if
Ian Altman:I take a golf lesson, I learn a new way to chip. That's fine. I
Ian Altman:go out during the lesson, I'm like, Oh, that's pretty good.
Ian Altman:But if I don't practice it at all, if I don't come up with
Ian Altman:scenarios where I'm using on a regular basis in a pressure
Ian Altman:situation. Let's go back to the way I used to do things, but if
Ian Altman:I practice, I'm going to get better. So what happens is, when
Ian Altman:I learn something new, like, here's a new way that I'm going
Ian Altman:to I'm going to chip on the golf course. I say, okay, when I get
Ian Altman:in this scenario, I'm going to use that new technique, because
Ian Altman:I built enough muscle memory that I'm good at that now I
Ian Altman:start hitting that shot, I get more comfortable with it. And
Ian Altman:then what happens is, I say, you know, I could probably use it in
Ian Altman:this other scenario too. And then I become just generally
Ian Altman:more confident to play that shot. It's the same thing in
Ian Altman:business. It's the same thing in sales. So rather than trying to
Ian Altman:boil the ocean, get more specific. So next time you've
Ian Altman:got an initiative and you're looking to grow, you're looking
Ian Altman:to change people's behavior. Instead of thinking big, think
Ian Altman:small. Think what are the two or three areas that, if I improve,
Ian Altman:will move the needle the most, and then have each rep pick a
Ian Altman:couple of opportunities that they're pursuing to apply this
Ian Altman:new approach, and I think you'll drive better results for your
Ian Altman:business. If there are topics you'd like me to cover on the
Ian Altman:next episode of the same side selling podcast, just drop me a
Ian Altman:note to Ian at Ian altman.com and I'll see you next time on
Ian Altman:the same side selling podcast, so long you
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